General Fri, 29 Aug 14 10:01:18 -0400 General en-CA A mandate for Christians in Science? Wed, 30 Jul 2014 04:12:38 -0400 bcarling 87@/forum/discussions I have been musing on this: 
"Taylor suggests that those who convert to unbelief "because of science" are less convinced by data and more moved by the form of the story that science tells and the self-image that comes with it (rationality = maturity). Moreover the faith that they left was often worth leaving. If Taylor is right, it seems to suggest that the Christian response to such converts to unbelief is not to have an argument about the data or evidences but rather to offer an alternative story that offers a more robust, complex understanding of the Christian faith. The goal of such witness would not be the minimal establishment of some vague theism but the invitation to historic, sacramental Christianity."

Comments anyone? Sounds like this challenge should be adopted by CiS...


The quote is from the book  

How (Not) to Be Secular: Reading Charles Taylor by James K A Smith (Eerdmans 2014).

Samples of the book on Google Books are here:

Natural History, Creation and Religious Conflicts Wed, 21 Aug 2013 05:07:35 -0400 bcarling 76@/forum/discussions]]> Bernard Lovell - a Nice Quotation Sat, 11 Aug 2012 14:25:35 -0400 exchemist 60@/forum/discussions
Editor: "It's too bad people such as me can't understand what goes on at a place like this".

Sir B, laughing: "But of course they can't understand it, because we can't understand it! If we understood the things we were working on, we wouldn't be working on them; they would have already been understood." 

Useful for illustrating to the less well-educated among creationists that gaps in understanding, far from being signs of a failure of science, let alone evidence of supernatural intervention, are simply the normal state of affairs and are, in fact, what keeps science alive.     
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does god intervene?, ..we're talking miracles here! Sat, 05 May 2012 02:37:39 -0400 bonnie43uk 49@/forum/discussions I've had a little tour around this Christian website, and some of you may be aware, i've posted a few comments over the past week or so. Following on, I'd be quite interested to get some feedback on the subject of miracles.

One of the reasons that I lost my faith was coming to terms with the fact ( from what i'd observed),  that god does not seem to intervene with the natural forces that govern us in any way shape or form, at least in a way that we can observe with any degree of certainty.

The term miracle I'm well aware has a very broad span in general use, .. "it was a miracle", says some person who survived a nasty car accident,.. yes, these incidents happen all the time.  I dont regard these strictly as miracles in the true sense of the word, me, that person had a lucky escape.

I'm talking more about the dictionary definition of "a supernatural occurance that defies the laws of nature".   Do these "true miracles happen"?

For example, Could god heal an amputee?. To the best of my knowledge there are no former amputees in the world.  Would we be pushing our luck to ask god to re grow lost limbs?

The New Testament is full of Jesus's miracles, .. As a child, learning about these wonderous events, I accepted them as fact unquestionably, it's only later in life I actually stopped and questioned myself as to the veracity of these wonders. With a skeptical head on, you begin to see a completely different story, though just as compelling.

So, in a nutshell, .. do miracles in their supernatural sense, happen, .. if so, what evidence is there?

Hi, I am new here Thu, 26 Apr 2012 00:50:08 -0400 bonnie43uk 47@/forum/discussions Hi, I'm new in here.

Can i ask a question about faith in general?

Why do you believe what you believe?  (I'm an atheist) .. please be kind to me

An appalling RE syllabus for GCSE Thu, 08 Mar 2012 22:26:04 -0500 Michael 39@/forum/discussions I have recently looked at the AQA syllabus for RE , on science and religion theey have this nonsensical and polarised course . How on earth did this get through?

Topic 6 Science and Religion

This topic compares and contrasts science and religion, trying to see how similar or different the two
are. It particularly looks at two key issues – the origins  of the universe, and the origins of life

scientific truth versus religious truth – what each truth is, including examples, and how it is

the issue of an evolving, changing truth versus an
absolute truth;

the issue of compatibility, including the question
of whether these types of truth answer the same

why society seems to favour science over religion
in the modern world, and the impact of this.
Scientific versus religious truth through the following
two foci:

origins of the universe – Big Bang versus
Genesis 1 creation story;

interpretations of religious creation stories, and
whether this affects their compatibility with
scientific theory;

the Cosmological revolution (development of the
round earth theory, and the universe with the sun
as its focal point);

the challenge the Cosmological revolution posed
for religious belief in the late Middle Ages.

origins of life – creation versus evolution;
design versus evolution;
Darwin’s reliance on God to make evolution work;
To what extent science and religion can agree;
how evolutionary theory – when first put
forward by Darwin – was a challenge to
religious belief;

the question of whether humans were created or
evolved, and its impact on human attitudes and
behaviour within society and to the rest of the
world generally.


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